Q:
You ran an unsuccessful race for the post of UN
Secretary-General. To what would you attribute your failure to
secure the job?
A: In a personal statement issued after my
withdrawal from the race, I indicated that I didn’t feel the
time was right for us to analyse reasons for my defeat. But,
perhaps, it can be said that 1995 was the zenith of my career
and the opportunity should have been seized during that time to
field me as a candidate for a senior position in the UN system.
Today, three years after I had left the UN
position as Under-Secretary-General, I did not have the
visibility that an incumbent foreign minister like Ban Ki-moon
had. Nor did I hold the positions that the other candidates held
to be able to actively engage governments and be in the
mainstream of diplomacy. That was probably one reason.
The other reason is that in today’s globalised
world, economic relations matter much more than ideology. And,
if any proof was needed that the Cold War has ended, we saw it
in this election for UN Secretary-General – with China actually
voting in favour of the Foreign Minister of the Republic of
Korea, despite the mutual security pact that South Korea has
with the US, to say nothing of 40,000 American troops on South
Korean soil. Times have changed and we have to acknowledge these
realities.
I derived great satisfaction from the fact that
an Asian was elected Secretary-General, because that had been a
fundamental plank in the Sri Lankan campaign and in my own
personal set of beliefs. I am also very happy that a national of
a country that has acquired nuclear weapons was not elected,
because that would have eroded the moral dimension of the
Secretary-General’s office.
Q: Could you analyse how the votes were cast at
the election?
A: It’s very difficult for us to analyse who
voted for us. I believe that the major Asian countries in the UN
Security Council voted for my candidature, but they also
probably voted for other Asian candidatures. This meant that
they were not conferring on me any special favour. The fact is
that there were no negative votes against the South Korean and
he was able to succeed.
What is disappointing, however, is that the
Western countries did not appear to have voted for me. I would
attribute that largely to my postures on disarmament issues. I
have adopted a very honest position on nuclear disarmament and I
have no regrets, whatsoever, on that. The countries that voted
to discourage me came from NATO and they must have feared I
would take an activist position on nuclear disarmament, had I
become Secretary-General. They didn’t realise that, as
Secretary-General, I would have had to divorce my personal views
from those of the UN.
Another reason attributed to my defeat was my
age, but I think that was more a red herring than a real reason
– because the President of Latvia was, in fact, older than I.
Boutros Boutros-Ghali assumed duties when he was older than both
the President of Latvia and myself.
As far as the Western group was concerned, it
could also be that Sri Lanka is not a big investor
internationally or a huge market for products. In this
globalised world – in the same way that China was influenced to
acquiesce vis-à-vis a Korean candidate –many Western candidates
were more enticed by economic benefits than by the individual
merits of a candidate. Nor did they consider his potential to
lift the UN from its present state of ineffectiveness and the
bad reputation it has acquired.
Several developing non-aligned countries are
non-permanent members of the UN. But there again, the
non-aligned ties that Sri Lanka has forged over a long period of
time clearly mattered much less during the vote. Here is a sign
of the times: that non-alignment and G77 links are less
important now than other ties, established more recently, with
countries offering benefits in terms of investment and markets.
In summary, I would think the trends of
globalisation – and the fact that there was a candidate
acceptable to all five permanent members – helped swing the
decision in favour of the Korean and against me.
Q: An opinion has been expressed that India
fielded a candidate just to cobble your chances. What role did
India play in your defeat?
A: At an early stage – when I had accepted
the late Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar’s proposal to be a
candidate – we did approach our South Asian neighbours and the
only lack of enthusiasm we detected was in New Delhi. It was
never clearly articulated as to why this was so. Had it been
expressed, we could have discussed it with our Indian
colleagues.
It was always rumoured that Shashi Tharoor had
harboured the ambition and intention of running for the post. I
believe that was one of the factors preventing the Indians from
endorsing me. It could have been awkward if Tharoor had sought
the sponsorship of another country such as the UK where he
enjoys, I’m told, nationality.
But the fact that they waited until quite late
in the process to announce Tharoor’s candidature was unfortunate
and it was certainly seen as a spoiler to my own candidature.
Many countries asked us directly, at an early stage, what
India’s attitude was to my candidature. We were unable to
produce the endorsement that the Thais had from ASEAN in respect
of their candidate. If we had a South Asian consensus on my
candidature, or on anyone else’s candidature, I think that would
have helped the region. South-East Asia had already been
represented in this post through what was then Burma and it
would have been logical for us to claim that it was South Asia’s
turn.
Q: Do you regret vying for the post?
A: I have no regrets whatsoever. When I
accepted the government’s offer to run as Sri Lanka’s candidate,
I knew it was a gamble. There was as much the prospect of
success as there was the spectre of defeat. In a race, you must
have the equanimity to accept both. I think I ran a successful
race and I was able to present the issues as I wanted them to be
presented. I was treated as a serious candidate, with respect;
and I am grateful to the government for having given me this
opportunity.
Q: Did the prevailing conflict situation in Sri
Lanka impact negatively on your candidature?
A: Sri Lanka received considerable adverse
international publicity at the time. I have said that I thought
it was disproportionate and not commensurate with the situation
in other parts of the world. There was, for example, continuing
haemorrhaging in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kashmir and other parts of
India experiencing Naxalite movements. Sri Lanka, sadly,
continues to attract a lot of publicity and I think that also
was a negative factor.
Q: Did you receive any direct indication during
your campaign that the situation in Sri Lanka might work against
you?
A: Nobody asked me directly. However, I
heard from the diplomatic missions campaigning for us that this
was a factor. Certainly, some of the media reporting indicated
that the Sri Lankan conflict was a factor.
Q: It was contended in some quarters that our
diplomatic missions did not adequately support your campaign.
Would you agree?
A: I think that’s an unfair criticism. If
you compare the Sri Lankan diplomatic machine with its Indian
and Korean counterparts,, there is no way in which we could have
competed. We have, perhaps, one-third the number of diplomatic
missions that India and South Korea have. And due to under-resourcing,
concurrent accreditation is also restricted to just one visit a
year to countries such as Greece, Slovakia and so on.
Secondly, although Sri Lanka is well known
internationally and has acquired a reputation – mainly through
the successful foreign policy of the late Sirimavo Bandaranaike
– we still suffer from the lack of peace and stability. We also
don’t have the economic prosperity that must go hand-in-hand
with the reputation we have acquired in order to be taken
seriously in the chanceries of the world. It’s not surprising,
therefore, that wealthier and bigger countries have greater
influence, impact and ability to command attention both in the
media and the international arena. That’s a fact of life.
Q: How will Ban Ki-moon, the new
Secretary-General, influence the manner in which the UN has been
conducting itself?
A: I am confident in his wisdom. He has an
Asian approach to international affairs – which, I think, brings
with it qualities of patience, tolerance and prudence. For
example, he knows the situation in East Asia very well, where we
have the North Korean nuclear issue to deal with. I do not think
it was a coincidence that the nuclear test of the Democratic
People’s Republic of Korea occurred immediately after the
decision was taken to elect Ban Ki-moon as Secretary-General.
One can only hope, therefore, that his deep
knowledge of the issue will help resolve it, although China will
remain key in the resolution of this problem. I also feel it’s
fundamentally a problem between the US and North Korea, and much
depends on the attitude of Washington.
Q: What are your future plans?
A: Now that I have been defeated in my quest
for the UN Secretary-General’s job, my preference is not to
undertake anything full-time, but to concentrate on my existing
international commitments. These give me a lot of satisfaction.
I also would like to spend some time writing. I have, in the
past, written mostly on international affairs. I would like to
reflect on the UN in the next book I write.
I’m also thinking of relocating to Kandy, where
my wife and I grew up. I continue to be a Senior Adviser to the
President, but that’s an honorary position. I’m very much on the
periphery. I furnish advice and opinions, as and when necessary,
on an ad-hoc basis.
Q: We still have a shell of a peace process
left, but there is no change in the status quo. How can this
situation be reversed, so that we see some forward movement?
A: First, one must welcome the Memorandum Of
Understanding (MOU) between the SLFP and the UNP. The President
must be given credit for securing a southern consensus. It is
left to be seen how this MOU is translated into action, in terms
of practical benefits to the country. Nevertheless, it’s a
promising development. For the first time in the history of
post-independent Sri Lanka, there’s the possibility of a
consensus on the part of the southern polity.
I would like to see this emerge now as a
practical proposal from the All Party Representatives Committee,
a tangible constitutional arrangement in terms of a devolution
package within a united Sri Lanka. While that process is going
on, it’s difficult to expect the peace talks to reach any
finality. These are interdependent processes.
I would also like to see a similar process on
the part of the Tamil and Muslim communities. There is no doubt
that there are divisions within the Tamil and Muslim
communities. I would like to see the non-LTTE Tamil forces
establish a coalition and provide the country with a clear idea
of what an emerging consensus could be. For instance,
Veerasingham Anandasangaree has mentioned the Indian model.
Douglas Devananda has also endorsed it from time to time, while
sometimes alluding to regional councils.
The Muslim Peace Secretariat was, unfortunately,
confined to just two parties: the NUA and the SLMC. It should be
more broad-based. I hope that these two parties will try to
reorganise the Muslim Peace Secretariat and make it a forum to
uphold Muslim interests, to produce a common platform. The
Muslims are an important minority in the country. They have
traditionally played a significant role, from ancient times.
Now, in the making of modern Sri Lanka as a multi-ethnic
pluralist society, the Muslims have a vital role to play.
Once we have these three groups producing their
own ideas, it will be much easier for us to have some sense of
what can be done. In that context, the LTTE will have to
formulate its own response to a democratic solution – one that
will respect the human rights of everybody.
Q: Are you suggesting this as a road map?
A: They are building blocks towards a
solution. What I admire about the Rajapakse approach is that he
is building up these blocks before attempting a solution. You
might come up with a very good plan, but if spoilers in the
political process can prevent it from being implemented, you
will find it blowing up in your face.
It is, therefore, much better to make sure that
all Muslim opinion is integrated into a platform and that all
Tamil opinion – outside the LTTE, because we know it is not in
the democratic mainstream – is integrated into a platform.
If all this can then be accommodated in the
solution that is being negotiated by the government, it would be
a lot easier for us to arrive at a national solution which is
acceptable to all.
I personally find that this process of
negotiating peace in the glare of publicity – in Geneva or
wherever else – is not necessarily the best way forward. I’m not
proposing that talks be held secretly, but I think it’s a task
for the technocrats to undertake – under the guidance, of
course, of their political masters.
As with all international negotiations and other
negotiations which have been successful in the past, technicians
must start working outside the glare of publicity. They may then
report back to the political leadership, whether it be the
government or the LTTE. You can’t expect automatic solutions at
a two-day meeting in Geneva or Oslo. I think there’s something
very wrong in the modality that the Norwegians have proposed and
I hope they move away from it.
Q: Isn’t it ominous that talks between the LTTE
and the government keep failing?
A: I’m not overly pessimistic that bilateral
peace talks between the LTTE and the government are not showing
progress right now. What I am concerned about is the lack of
peace in the country. The absence of a settlement, agreed upon
between the LTTE and government in the short term, is not as
important as the restoration of a complete ceasefire and a
respect for human rights. In this regard, there has been a sharp
deterioration in 2006.
We must return to a better implementation of the
2002 ceasefire, despite all the flaws in the agreement. You can
also buttress the ceasefire with parallel human-rights
monitoring.
There must be a way in which the Karuna group is
given some role, so that it is brought within the discipline of
the ceasefire. How that can be done must be discussed, but its
members can’t be allowed to get away with violations of the
ceasefire simply because they are anti-LTTE.
No violations of law and order can be tolerated
by an elected government in a democratic country which holds the
rule of law and human rights as fundamental foundations of the
nation.
Q: Do you have practical suggestions for a
better implementation of the ceasefire agreement?
A: I deplored the decision of the EU members of
the SLMM to leave. That was a retrograde step. They could very
well have relocated to Colombo and worked here in a
reconfiguration of the SLMM. I hope they come back, even at this
stage. We need to expand the number of monitors and they should
be able to function smoothly. There have been numerous occasions
when the LTTE has not permitted them, for example, to go to the
airfield that it is suspected to be building. That should not
have been tolerated.
As I have said, the ceasefire agreement of 2002
is deeply flawed. But we have to live with the flaws now,
because renegotiating such a ceasefire agreement is a huge task.
The LTTE will certainly not cooperate, because the current
ceasefire agreement is in its favour.
What we can do is to build a parallel
human-rights monitoring mechanism. The international community
can insist that the LTTE and the government accept that
mechanism. The government itself has subscribed to international
agreements on human rights. We also have constitutional
guarantees of human rights. All these should be a framework for
human-rights monitoring that could take place with our own
people and with international observers. That will help buttress
the existing ceasefire agreement.
Q: How has concern over human rights had an
impact on how we are currently viewed by the world?
A: From an understanding that we are victims of
terrorism, there is now also a deep concern over two things. One
is our failure to produce a concrete proposal to solve the
minority problems in this country. The forging of the UNP-SLFP
agreement has, to some extent, helped reduce that problem. But
the other issue is that there have been a number of human-rights
violations and breaches of the ceasefire, where suspicion points
to the government. And there has not been sufficient action
taken by the state to remove that suspicion or to determine who
the culprits are. I think that has resulted in a very serious
credibility problem for Sri Lanka, internationally. More
seriously, we are losing the moral high ground.
While nobody is looking upon the LTTE as freedom
fighters, our own credibility in fighting terrorism is being
seriously eroded because of these human-rights violations that
are perceived to have been committed by the government. If that
perception is wrong, it’s up to us to prove that they’re wrong.
(Courtesy LMD Magazine)